care kicked in, and that was exactly what president obama had used to justify passing obama care when he said there are the spiraling health care costs so your costs were rising even without obama care, but. >> no doubt about it. >> alisyn: now, it sounds like, according again to the national federation for independent business research foundation, that's a mouthful, your taxes could go up by 3%. what does it mean for your future and your employees? >> what it means is, if we see another year or two what we've seen in the past two years, we will, we will no longer be providing health care for our 58-- you know, we've got 52 full-time employees that we pay 100% on their health care and that will go away. as simple as that. we cannot absorb the cost any longer for the way the stuff is going up. >> clayton: what about laying people off? we've heard from individuals and spoken to small business owners who are saying they have to go through seminars to try to figure out how obama care will impact their small business and whether or not they can hire individuals or have to lay folks off. wh